3 Cocktails In

Reboot Reflections - Hollywood's Recycling Machine

Amy, Kitty & Stacey Season 2 Episode 35

What happens when beloved stories from our past get reimagined for today? The Four Seasons, a 1981 film starring Alan Alda and Carol Burnett, recently received the Netflix treatment as an eight-episode series. This transformation provides the perfect lens to examine how our storytelling, character development, and cultural values have evolved over forty years.

The original film centered on three couples who vacation together throughout the year until one husband abruptly divorces his wife and introduces a younger girlfriend into their tight-knit circle. While this core premise remains in the Netflix reboot, the modern version dives deeper into the emotional complexities and friendship dynamics that ensue. One fascinating revelation: while the basic human emotions around friendship breakups haven't changed much, social media has profoundly altered how these ruptures unfold. As one host notes, "What you didn't know didn't hurt you" in the pre-digital era – but today, we're constantly confronted with visual evidence of events we weren't invited to.

Perhaps the most striking evolution appears in how women are portrayed. The 1981 film presented female characters primarily as "the wives," reacting to their husbands' actions despite being smart and witty in their own right. Fast forward to the Netflix series, and we find women as entrepreneurs, therapists, and creatives with full agency and independent storylines. In some cases, the dynamic flips entirely, with female characters taking on the dominant roles their male counterparts occupied in the original. This shift reflects four decades of progress in how we represent women in media.

The conversation extends beyond The Four Seasons to consider other classics that have been (or perhaps should be) remade. Some, like The Ten Commandments, might benefit tremendously from modern cinematography and storytelling approaches. Others, like The Sound of Music, stand perfectly well on their own. What makes a reboot worthwhile? When it honors the original while bringing something new to the conversation – exactly what the Four Seasons series managed to accomplish. Have you watched both versions? We'd love to hear which elements you think were most successfully updated for today's world.

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Speaker 1:

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Speaker 2:

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Speaker 3:

Well, here we are again. Welcome everyone.

Speaker 4:

Good day to y'all.

Speaker 5:

Good day to y'all. Do you live up north or down south?

Speaker 4:

I don't know, I don't know, I don't know what day it is, I don't know. I'm neither here nor there.

Speaker 3:

Interesting. Well, you are here. You are here right now and this is another episode of Three Cocktails In Stacey, amy and Kitty. Thank you guys for tuning in. We cover lots of different topics and tonight we are going to dig into what we're calling the Reboot Project. And this has been kind of fun to prepare for and I think the initial part of our conversation will probably lead into some others as well. But we became very curious, excited about the fact that the Four Seasons, which was a classic movie, was remade into a Netflix series and I think we all dived in very quickly and binged through the whole thing. So we're going to dig into that and have a fun little conversation about the reboot of this classic film yeah, so I'm curious.

Speaker 4:

Um, I watched the series because I love 75 of the actors and actresses in it. I recognized all of the actors and actresses in the original, which was a movie, but I had never watched that original movie. Had you guys, had you seen it like of its era in that time?

Speaker 5:

I remember, I remember seeing it. There were and there was another Alan Alda um Carol Burnett movie too. That was a few years later. That I kind of liked too. So yeah, it was interesting, it came out in 1981, so and I and I mean I remember seeing it.

Speaker 3:

I know I saw it, but I had to go back and watch it again to remember. You know, I knew that it was the couples that were getting together and you know kind of and their evolution, but that was really, that was really it. So it was fun to watch it. Now, in this era that we're in yeah and then, of course, to compare it to the netflix.

Speaker 4:

So so did you have expectations when you started watching the series? So, like for me, who hadn't watched the movie, and maybe for our listeners who never watched the movie, did you have? I'm just curious, did you guys have a set of expectations as to what this was going to be, other than that basic story couples each other.

Speaker 5:

And I couldn't. Yeah, I couldn't remember enough of it. I went back and watched the old movie later. That basic story Couples each other. Yeah, I couldn't remember enough of it. I went back and watched the old movie later. I couldn't remember enough of it. I just knew that was the gist. You know they get together on vacation. You know all the time in the different four seasons and different things happen. That's all I could really remember. So I really enjoyed the. You know the new series really enjoyed it.

Speaker 3:

I did when I knew that we were going to do this, I went and watched the original movie first, oh, you did, okay.

Speaker 3:

And then I watched the reboot and so I didn't really have any expectations. I had a lot of curiosity. I was like, okay, how is it going to be different? How is it going to be similar? How will they modernize it? And I think that's something that I'm always thinking about on this topic. When, when the decision is made that you know a movie company is going to remake something, yes, why? First of all, like who raises their hand and says, ooh, ooh, we need to remake Pretty in Pink because you know, or we need to remake the Breakfast Club, can you imagine what about?

Speaker 4:

Roadhouse. Why did we need another? The original roadhouse with dear, you know, heart throb patrick swasey, yep, why? Why didn't? What story was left untold? That needed to be this, at least. You know I'm joking about that. But when you think about the four seasons as the movie, I think that they did a really good job of taking the premise and retelling it to fit today.

Speaker 3:

Okay, I have not seen it. You what I have not seen it.

Speaker 4:

You didn't watch it.

Speaker 3:

I thought you were talking about roadhouse no, okay, yeah so, yeah, sorry, are they doing a remake of roadhouse? Is that they did do it with jim?

Speaker 5:

yeah, okay, I'm sure I'm guessing it's one that nobody watched. I don't know.

Speaker 4:

I don't know. I think a lot of people did, but I think they were younger. Yeah.

Speaker 5:

I, you know, of course, who knows why? My guess is why. You know it was a fairly popular movie, so they're looking well, now let's modernize it and make some more money. We know the storyline and everything is successful and people might like it. So here let's, let's redo it and make money off of it. You know what I mean, instead of guess. You know there's a lot of flops, so you know it would at least be semi-successful. So yeah, that would be my guess. I don't know.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, um, so I I do have some specific topics that I thought would be fun to talk about the comparison between the two, and, again, one of the questions that I had was how will they modernize this? Um, because you know, there's the there. They will in some way, and that's always something that I'm particularly interested in. So, first of all, the topic of friendship, comparing between the two. So for those of you who haven't seen it, please go watch it, because it really is the original, a great film. The original focuses on these upper middle class couples that come together for their holidays, their vacations, and then one husband, out of the blue, says I'm divorcing my wife.

Speaker 3:

After basically having this big conversation amongst the four of them about aren't we so lucky that all of us are staying together, right? And then the one husband says I'm out, fast forward, brings a new girlfriend into the group, and so there's this really interesting focus on friendship, emotional loyalty, right oh yeah I think we can all talk about that we can

Speaker 5:

that is definitely a thing you know in divorce who do you who? What friends do you lose? You know, because they go with the other crowd. How do you still, yeah, fit in with your?

Speaker 4:

yeah you don't just divvy up kids and, and you know, fight for the kids. Sometimes there's the fighting for the friends, and can you invite both and what happens when you do?

Speaker 3:

Yeah, yep, there was kind of. There was a funny experience in the original and in the reboot about that when they both show up. Yeah, very funny, I I. It seemed like in the netflix series that the storyline sort of went a little bit deeper into some of those emotional boundaries and kind of the messiness of of the friendships, um seemed, and there was just more depth. You can do more depth when you've got eight episodes versus a movie.

Speaker 4:

And I really I didn't Two hours versus eight hours.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, exactly, so okay. So here's the question around this, and we've already talked about it a little bit Do we handle friendship breakups more openly now? Um, does that netflix version reflect how our generation talks about loyalty and boundaries? What?

Speaker 5:

do you guys think about that? Good questions. I wouldn't say we're any better, honestly.

Speaker 3:

Probably not. That sort of human behavior probably hasn't changed a whole lot.

Speaker 4:

Probably not. I would think that the feelings are the same. I would think it's more awkward now than it was, in part because of social media. Coming back to social media and before, you might only run into the friend that has been left out occasionally, occasionally, here your group of friends are always not always but there's a much more likely chance that through your social media network, you are going to see where you are left out. So I think that it's more awkward. I think it's more awkward now. I think that feelings can be hurt, maybe more, because you see what you're missing, you see what you didn't get invited to, not unlike what middle schoolers and high schoolers are going through. Those feelings still hurt. Yeah, so you know when we joke about we're so glad that there was no social media when we were in high school um.

Speaker 1:

You know what you?

Speaker 3:

didn't know didn't hurt you yes well, it truly was a simpler time. It it really was.

Speaker 5:

Yes, yes, for sure. I thought in the original movie first. You know re-watching it, and I feel like this is the case for a lot of older movies or shows. Pretty cheesy, honestly.

Speaker 4:

Oh, when you watch it again.

Speaker 5:

When you watch it yeah, couldn't get over the fact that they were. Did you notice they were always kissing each other. You know what I mean. Do you have friends that you, you know couple friends that you kiss? Did you not notice that? Oh, you know, like pecs on the cheek, I mean. Constantly they'd meet and they'd all kiss each other on the cheeks and lips and they were kissing all the time. It's just so weird to me. That was weird to me that's now.

Speaker 4:

I wonder if that's, and and perhaps our listeners can help us out with this, because I wonder if that is geographical. I just I kind of assumed that that was a northeast New York setting. What are the? What cultures live in that area where they are very demonstrative In the Midwest? We are not Miss. I don't like hugs in the upper corner not really wanting somebody

Speaker 4:

to you don't want me to reel you in and give you a peck on the cheek well, you and you and I and kitty fine, but I mean literally they, they'd come together.

Speaker 5:

I mean it would be like the one night they're just going to their hotel rooms and going to bed, they're all kissing and then they disperse. Like what are you?

Speaker 4:

okay, but it wasn't. But we need to clarify it was not in swinger type kissing.

Speaker 5:

No, yeah but I'm just saying that's not a thing and it's certainly not around here that ever. You know, like I said, it's pecs on the cheek and but every all of them.

Speaker 3:

It was just funny to see to me yeah, so I didn't notice that in the series. No, no, okay, no. So to me then I feel like it's so. Yes, amy, it could be a regional thing, but it I think it's also an era thing.

Speaker 3:

I mean, those, those couples were, they were very very close right, yes, and they only saw each other, you know, four times a year. Yeah, four times a year. So, um, but yeah, that was not something that was carried over into the series and I think, just because you just don't see people do that today, no, was there any nudity in the new series?

Speaker 5:

I don't think there was. Was there?

Speaker 4:

there was some skinny when they were when they went skinny dipping well, they went.

Speaker 5:

I can't remember the skinny dipping in the series, Did they? They went skinny dipping in the original one. Oh see, I can't remember.

Speaker 4:

Yeah, we did.

Speaker 5:

So I was more surprised that they went skinny dipping in a movie in 1981. And you can see some buns, you know what I mean? I mean, that's as much as it was, but I thought that was surprising for 1981, but maybe not, I don't know surprising for 1981, but maybe not, I don't know um.

Speaker 4:

I thought I thought in 1981 in the original movie. Every time they they were together they were in really close quarters, really tight, like that puts that extra, you know, pressure on the group, like when they were all out on that boat boat, yeah, I would have jumped off.

Speaker 4:

I would have jumped and tried to swim and strand myself on the desert island because us being that yeah you know where you couldn't even walk and yeah, that was just too much, yeah, too much. So I also liked the time span better of the series. Yeah, but you know we haven't mentioned yet. I mean, okay, we'll keep going with your outline, kitty, because I'm sure we'll get to it.

Speaker 3:

So this can be a very quick little comparison, but I thought the role of women in the two the women were very different.

Speaker 1:

The women in the two the women were very different.

Speaker 3:

The women in the original Carol Burnett, rita Moreno, sandy, dennis, sandy, dennis, sandy, dennis. Enjoyable characters, smart, funny, witty, but they were often reacting to their husbands. They were very subservient isn't the word, but they were, they were, they weren't the main characters.

Speaker 4:

Yeah, they were the wife.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, yeah, they were the wives, so, um yeah, and then in the series, the female characters entrepreneur, therapist, creative these were stronger female characters. Um so, but you know what? I would expect that. So that that was one way that it was modernized and I I was pleased with that. I thought that was great. Yeah, it's like everybody I'm sorry, I was great. Yeah, it's like everybody.

Speaker 4:

I'm sorry. I was just going to say it was like everybody had a story in the modern yes, yeah, much more depth.

Speaker 3:

Much more character development.

Speaker 5:

And again they had eight episodes to do it. We haven't brought up that in the series there's a gay couple. You know that's definitely a modernized, you know, compared to the yeah, and that's kind of what I was thinking with.

Speaker 4:

You know, when we say the wives were reactionary, the partners were the two husbands because they were married. Um, one was the core of the group, one was the add-on, you know, just like um. So he came into it later. We're assuming he came into the to the history later, um, and it took not everybody was happy about how he thought. Fit in to the group, yeah, fit in, fit. Okay. Another bad word, much like the new girlfriend.

Speaker 1:

Yes.

Speaker 4:

Yeah, so that's back to that relationship dynamic. So we had you know You're right.

Speaker 3:

Yeah. So the partner of the core person in the group names won't even matter here, but the Italian yeah Right, the Italian, I loved him. I thought he was a great character. And so when other people were annoyed by him, I'm just like yeah Right, the Italian, I loved him, I thought he was a great character.

Speaker 3:

And so when other people were annoyed by him. I'm just like no. And Bill watched the whole thing with me too and he agreed Like he's a cool dude and I thought he did a lot of fun and he did a lot of good things for the group in general.

Speaker 4:

Yeah, you know now that I think about it. I think that Tina Fey almost played the Alan Alda part.

Speaker 1:

Like, like she was the more dominant.

Speaker 4:

So she was the primary, will Forte Forte. Her husband was the secondary. Yeah, I would say so in the series it wasn't strict husband, wife, husband, you know, husband, partner.

Speaker 3:

To me it felt like some of the women were the primary character and their husbands were the secondary. Yeah, yeah, yeah, the okay. So the guy that played tina fey's husband, that's, will fort will forte, forte, is that how you pronounce it?

Speaker 4:

yeah, he's been. He is one of their comedian improv a long time. I think he wrote for SNL I think he might have been on SNL.

Speaker 5:

not for very long he was on SNL.

Speaker 4:

He's in a lot of those he's with that group of friends. I wasn't super crazy.

Speaker 3:

I wasn't crazy about him. Yeah, I agree what you said. There is exactly right. She took on more of the Alan Alda role from the original movie and, yeah, I like that. Yeah, so this is my shot. By the way, this is my little thing that I have in my hand. I do have a shot about the pill bottle.

Speaker 5:

good well, we'll find out when you're on later um.

Speaker 3:

So okay, let's talk about the um, the breakup, right? So jack's affair and then sudden remarriage. So it it's revealed that he has had a lot of girlfriends and then finally decides to break up and have a new relationship. So it's very much portrayed as midlife crisis, which is kind of what it would have been talked about and seen as back then. Yeah, midlife crisis versus in the series, a blossoming, a personal awakening, right?

Speaker 5:

I mean just yeah difference of semantics completely different way of yeah, because they never said midlife crisis, but that's certainly what it was, considering his age and then her much younger age, yeah, Okay, I looked at it a little bit, as I did something similar, except I didn't.

Speaker 4:

I did not go out searching for a younger man, but to the people who didn't know, it looked like my ex and I had this you know steady salad relationship, and I knew I wanted more than what I was getting. I think that Jack did the same thing, so I don't know that anybody would describe a woman asking for divorce as a midlife crisis.

Speaker 3:

Yeah yeah, but it's stereotypical, for, yes, for a man, it's a midlife crisis.

Speaker 4:

Yes, you know you go buy a sports car, you divorce your wife you, you know, get something younger yeah, very very young.

Speaker 4:

Yes, and that was the other part that I wanted to talk about, the comparison between the two the younger newcomer, the younger girlfriend. I think in both the original movie and the series they played that part really well and I thought those two roles were incredibly similar, like what they were going through, what the dynamic was, didn't need modernizing. I think that it was the same You're younger, you're looked at with a bit of not disdain but dismay. Your opinions and feelings were pushed to the side because you didn't know, you haven't been here as long. And they in both they allowed the frustration of that character to show.

Speaker 4:

Yes, I thought that was so I liked that I would have. I guess I never would have thought of what that person went through in 1981.

Speaker 5:

Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 4:

Because also we didn't see that? Because we didn't have social media.

Speaker 3:

I thought that it was fun that they took it further and showed him going on a weekend away with her friends.

Speaker 1:

Yeah.

Speaker 3:

Oh my gosh, and just how uncomfortable it was.

Speaker 5:

And he's just like you're doing what so uncomfortable for him. But again, I think it probably was the same for her. You know, yeah, with his friends. So yeah, that was funny. That was a funny part.

Speaker 3:

Oh my gosh. Okay, let's see. What else did I have here?

Speaker 4:

Oh, I have a question Do any of your friends, your male friends, now have a significantly younger partner? Your male friends now have a significantly younger partner, or women friends, Although you know that would really be the oddity right now?

Speaker 5:

Yeah.

Speaker 3:

No, I can't think of anybody.

Speaker 4:

No, me neither, but I, I mean, it's got to happen, yeah, I would assume.

Speaker 5:

Yeah, yeah, I think it probably does. I was just curious.

Speaker 3:

No, I don't know any so, and this is going to kind of bring us back around to kind of what we were talking about at the beginning of the conversation. So do you think that the Netflix version is playing tribute to the original or do you think that it is because it's? I don't know, I don't know that I would go so far to call it a cult classic, but it is a classic. Was it simply rewriting the classic with some modern edge to it, and did it need to be done?

Speaker 4:

I actually really am glad they did it, because I think it happens way more often, and I think that they held true to the relationships and really told the deeper story that you couldn't do in a two-hour movie back then. So I thought that they're both standalone. I don't think you have to watch the original to enjoy the the series. I think if you watch the series you'd go back and get a kick out of it, although, like stacy said, it would feel cheesy, just because everything that you watch from former eras feels a little, you know, it's like I'm sure it's like the star wars fans who watched the three originals like oh my god, can you believe? How did anybody believe that cinematography? Or you know the technical side of it exactly.

Speaker 5:

Yeah, yeah, but it was good, I liked, I liked the remake. You know, I don't, I don't care why they did it. Um. You asked if it was a um, what'd you say? I um honor, honoring the old one, or something yes so the new one did have alan alda in it for a tiny little bit, which I thought was nice.

Speaker 1:

They yeah yeah, I did too yeah I like.

Speaker 3:

So I and I do. I do wonder, like, who comes forward and says okay, guys, it's time, it's time to remake? Um well, the wizard of oz isn't a good idea, because wicked, because really I mean wicked isn't wizard of oz. No right right, there's no dorothy, there's like that storyline isn't before.

Speaker 5:

Yeah, it's before it, so it's not really a remake, but it's taking that story or pre-screening.

Speaker 4:

It's like part of a franchise yeah. It's a prequel.

Speaker 5:

Yeah, we should have looked up, and I didn't research, but did I wonder who produced it. You know what I mean. Like did Tina Fey produce the?

Speaker 4:

I think so. Oh yeah, I think so too.

Speaker 5:

So that's the question yeah, was this her idea or something you know? Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, I have so some of the classics that are out there. So, like growing up around Easter time, we would always watch the 10 commandments. Did you guys watch that?

Speaker 4:

Yeah, I mean watched the 10 commandments. Did you guys watch that? Yeah, I mean, yeah, I mean not like it was not like the wizard of oz at halloween that I watched every year and the sound of music that I watched every year.

Speaker 3:

Yeah that the 10 commandments. For us that was every every year, and um, that's one that I just think. Why has somebody not redone that? Because with the modern technology that we have, you know, the cinematography and all of that, I just think that could be an amazing film. Hmm, you know, can you find another Charlton Heston? I mean, how do you find those actors that can live up to and not replicate what they did? But, you know, um, pay tribute to these pieces of work, these films that were groundbreaking at the time. Now, I'm not saying that the four seasons was groundbreaking, groundbreaking, right, but right, you know, on the topic of these movies that really kind of were gone with the wind, yeah no one's done that.

Speaker 5:

would that work today? Being um, wouldn't you call that? I don't know if that's the right word, but but antebellum, isn't that what that? I don't know that that one works today. I don't think it'd fly today.

Speaker 4:

Well, I think you'd have to tell another half of the story, yeah yeah, which could make it really really interesting. Oh yeah, I think so. But then you think about the old cowboy movies and now you look at the whole Taylor Sheridan group of shows, where they've taken what was you know conquering the West, and now they've developed a series about it, a multi-season series. About what is it? 1886, 1923, um, yeah, so similar, and that you're taking some of the classics that we used to watch and being able to put it into a streaming service, you can dive in much more and get how come nobody's redone little house on the prairie talk about a classic.

Speaker 5:

Yeah, yeah uh, yeah, yeah, that would be good I don't know.

Speaker 4:

Would kids want to watch laura and nelly getting into it on the playground? What's the equivalent of that?

Speaker 5:

yeah, I'm guessing probably not yeah I don't know, yeah, I don't know, can we talk about sex in the city, sex and the city? And it's not like it's a remake today, but they do have the series and just like that, on hbo max, which I've said I really liked um, I, so I've been watching that, really like it, because I think, you know again, it's our age group, so there's a lot of things I can identify with. I think it's very timely, um, and just like that. So I went back and watched some of the um, old, sex and the city.

Speaker 5:

I watched the season one, episode one and two, and then I skipped forward to the last season and watched a couple in the middle, just because I wanted to see if it was you know yeah, you know what I mean how how different that would have been. I thought it was funny that I noticed, and I don't know how long it went, but in in the beginning she talked to the camera. So you remember that thing, like ferris bueller, you know was the start of it, I think, but she did a lot of talking to the camera, but by season six she wasn't. She was doing that, you know, narrating it behind, yeah, behind it like the, like the new movies and the new thing was so I thought that was interesting, something that would not fly today. Episode two um has barkley. Um, this guy she knows it's played by gabriel mocked. Do you know him from suits?

Speaker 4:

I, I would have to see him.

Speaker 5:

I'm I'm the worst at the actors names yeah, so this episode was called modelizer and they they called him a modelizer, so somebody who actively tried to date models. Right, just okay, so he would. And, like I said, this is the part that I don't think will fly today he videoed, you know, secretly videoed him with the models. Okay, are you getting my gist? You can say it. They were having sex. He would secretly video him.

Speaker 5:

And then she goes to see he's like an artist and he's doing all these art whatever. And she questioned, like how he makes his money because he's never an artist and he's doing all these art whatever. And she questioned, like how he makes his money because he's never sold any of his art. But yeah, he has this big tv wall, you know the old style giant tv up on all these tvs, and he turns it on and they all start playing. And I thought the interesting thing was that she wasn't upset and she asked well, do they know you? No, they don't know you know. So that was, I thought, pretty interesting to me. And again, who knows what else through it? I just thought that was for episode two. Yeah, right now, that would be hugely controversial.

Speaker 4:

Actually, it wouldn't be controversial. To show it, you would have to have part of the storyline, the controversy.

Speaker 5:

Yeah.

Speaker 4:

Yeah.

Speaker 5:

And there's just one on. I mean she just I think she was kind of half into it and was smoking a cigarette at the end, and then that was the end of the episode. It was just like yeah, so that's the difference between 1998, and today, I think. I just thought that was very, very different.

Speaker 4:

Kitty, you said you never really watched the series, right, no, correct, I did. I really enjoyed it because it was again a peek into a lifestyle I was not experiencing.

Speaker 5:

I forgot that piece that I was going to say. So at the time, like I said, 98, we had little kids. We were not living that life. You know what?

Speaker 4:

I mean, I've never been to New York in 1996.

Speaker 5:

No, so you know, so we 1998.

Speaker 4:

98. Kitty, was that the year we went?

Speaker 5:

Started in 98, ended in 2004. But I mean, yes, besides, yes besides, yeah, I think so. But besides, just new york, just that whole singles, fancy, yeah, fancy, you know lifestyle that they could do whatever you know. Again, we were home with kids and yeah, yeah, so couldn't identify with what they were doing, but enjoyed watching it just to see you know.

Speaker 4:

Yeah, I don't have HBO Max. I have watched the two movies that they put out. I found I found one of them, I think the first one. Okay, I was highly irritated by the second one, and I was highly irritated by a couple of the characters and I felt like they were caricatures of real life people instead of actually being true. And I thought the two that were caricatures were Samantha and Charlotte.

Speaker 5:

Yeah, so you know A lot of people don't like the second one very well. Yeah, I like the new characters in the new series. You know they've brought in a couple new characters. Did I like them?

Speaker 4:

Yeah, and I remember there was lots of conversation about how they had to modernize it because Sex and the City was very white, very white, incredibly white as a series, Right.

Speaker 5:

So the two new strong females in it, one is I'm not sure, One's black, One I can't say I would guess Indian.

Speaker 4:

But Persian or something like that. Know from the Middle East, yeah.

Speaker 3:

American, but American yeah yeah, um so and I I didn't. I didn't watch it, but I would hear little things about it, and Samantha didn't come back and do the new right.

Speaker 5:

So was that weird Was was?

Speaker 3:

was there like something missing? Was that obvious? How did they address that? Or was it just a non-issue?

Speaker 5:

No, it was addressed in like the first season she was on. I would call remotely, you know. Know, like they talked on the phone, okay, um, you know she never came into the same set, but they did, they, they talked on the phone, basically you know what I mean. Um, so, yeah, they wrote it as that, you know, basically carrie was miffed that she just skipped. I can't even remember because that's been, like I said, three seasons ago.

Speaker 5:

She took off from out, you know, left new york right and just thinking they're, you know, too too good of friends to just, you know, leave and not say much and whatever is how they handled it. But they made up over the phone and whatever. Yeah.

Speaker 4:

Yeah, and super awkward because you know the whole backstory about how. Kim Cattrall was not happy and did not like all of them, so that's always interesting too.

Speaker 5:

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, it is, it is.

Speaker 4:

It is, there, are. Are there any old shows or movies or series that you guys have gone back to try and watch and, and they just don't work now Um um well, I I don't know if I would say it just didn't work, but bill and I popped on urban cowboy not too long ago.

Speaker 3:

okay, just so, I don't know that cheesy is even the word, but there were so many times that we would just look at each other and go, oh my God, I can't believe they just said that, or I can't believe they just did that, or whatever. And I I can't even tell you how many times I went to the movie theater to see that movie oh really, you went multiple times.

Speaker 3:

Oh, I went probably a dozen times. Oh, you're kidding. No, whatever year that was I don't know what year that was and I also remember I had a cowboy hat at the time, so I would wear my cowboy hat to the movie theater.

Speaker 4:

Oh, that's funny is funny, I remember watching I remember loving northern exposure did you guys ever watch that as a tv series.

Speaker 4:

Okay, I do remember watching that, yes. And so georgia, for a while, got into watching Twin Peaks. Now we went back and watched Twin Peaks. I'm like, oh, if you love Twin Peaks of the same era not the same storyline but kind of quirky and really interesting characters you should watch Northern Exposure. So I went back to try and start it again. I called her. I'm like'm like don't, don't watch this one. It doesn't, it's weird. Now it's kind of like huh, that one I remember being in love with.

Speaker 4:

I remember, and I think I actually recommended it as a shot to go back and watch something Um Six, which which does have a little it's. It was streaming, I don't know, 10 years ago, 12 years hell, it could be 15 years ago. I have no idea. I can't also place things in time or space. Um, but that had a huge, uh kind of cult following six feet under and I tried to start it again. I tried to watch it with one of the weirdos that I dated that I thought would get a kick out of it, and it just didn't. It didn't hit, it didn't land. I don't know what it is, but yeah, I'm sure there's a ton of that.

Speaker 4:

A lot of those. Are there any shows or movies you wish people would redo?

Speaker 3:

Well, I mean, I'm a tank mammoth.

Speaker 5:

Urban Cowboy with a new story.

Speaker 3:

I mean sure yeah.

Speaker 4:

I wonder, with the Ten Commandments, if that is so beloved that nobody it's never going to live up. Just like you would not you should not redo the Sound of Music.

Speaker 5:

Oh, no, right, Because that you can watch today and yeah.

Speaker 3:

Oh shoot, what was I just going? To say I can't remember. I don't know.

Speaker 5:

Are you going to tell us about your shot, your medicine?

Speaker 3:

I sure can.

Speaker 5:

I sure can.

Speaker 3:

Okay so and I mean you guys might already know this, but this was mind blowing to me Okay so, if your pill bottles are this kind so not all pharmacies have this kind, right, but you know all of these have the safety right, so you actually have to push that down and then turn it right. It's the child protection thing. Yeah, so let's say you don't have any kids in your house and you don't have to have that thing locked down. Did you know that? All you have to do that if you want to use it the other way, you just it's.

Speaker 3:

No, did not know that hey that's a good one, wow, I know and it's like yeah, sure enough, there's the it's. It is designed for that specifically you don't want it this way, you do it this way.

Speaker 5:

Are there directions on the top for that, or just we were supposed to notice the thread I?

Speaker 3:

think we were just supposed to know that and I discovered it because I saw it on one of those. It was either facebook or instagram, those little videos where somebody says you know I was today years old.

Speaker 5:

Yeah, I was.

Speaker 3:

I was today years old when I learned this yep exactly, and I was like huh, wow, promptly went to my pill bottles and I switched them all around there you go, oh I thought you were gonna say we could use it as a jewelry carrier, so our things can tangle together.

Speaker 5:

I could not figure out where the heck you would have been going well.

Speaker 3:

I am pleased to know that you two had never heard of that before, because that means a lot of people probably have never heard of it so you got us on that one good yeah good, yeah, I'm glad I golfed today.

Speaker 5:

I took a off, golfed in a four lady Best ball. How was that. Well, we got third to last. I mean, oh Right, so here's my actual shot. We know we are not going to be good, but yet we do it all the time and I think that's my shot. Like there are too many women who, oh, I'm just not good enough for a tournament. Well, you might be better than we are Drive to.

Speaker 4:

Jewel yes, I have for this particular tournament.

Speaker 5:

You might beat us. No, I just think I've heard that a lot Like oh, I'm not good enough for a tournament. Oh, my gosh, you're certainly good enough for any women's tournament, so go play.

Speaker 4:

And the cool thing I will say about a women's golf tournament you're only playing with your four friends. Yes, Nobody else I mean the group behind you might know that you're taking a little bit longer, but they don't know.

Speaker 5:

Oh, yeah, who cares? It was four hours of blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah and a little bit of golf. Yeah, what could possibly be bad with that? And it was a nice day too. So yeah, that's awesome, there's my, there's my shot.

Speaker 4:

Go play in a tournament, it's best of all, nobody cares okay, I do have a shot and this is just a weird one. It's not weird but um. So, as somebody who's trying to get more protein into their diet and you know, the breakfast is really hard for me because I don't eat eggs and um, so it's hard to get protein so I occasionally try those kodiak, that kodiak brand. They've got kodiak pancakes, um, you can. There's also a muff, a muffin mix, and this is my whole thing the protein, um, blueberry muffin mix.

Speaker 4:

Now, the pancakes don't have any great flavor to it and require a lot of syrup, which kind of defeats the idea, but you know, still protein. So I got it into my head that I was going to make these proteins, blueberry protein muffins, but I was going to add real blueberries to it for real flavor. And I did. I added probably at least a cup of blueberries that I tossed and just a little bit of flour so they didn't sink to the bottom and damn if they don't taste good and I ate two of them. And I went from 8 30 in the morning till noon without being hungry.

Speaker 4:

Hey, you can take a protein product, add something real to it and make it not taste like just. You know, some of that stuff just tastes like filler, like the protein bars. They just taste like pureed mush. I know, yeah, so this did not.

Speaker 5:

The addition of real, like you know, real fruit Top up a banana, put it in there, top up, you know, real fruit a banana, put it in there, top up.

Speaker 4:

You know real fruit right now actually made it taste. It was really enjoyable. So that's my tip.

Speaker 5:

Hey good one. We're full of shots tonight. We're full of something we are. We are routinely full of something that we are.

Speaker 3:

Oh, all are, oh, all right Well should we Yep?

Speaker 5:

Give four seasons a try. Yeah, it's a wrap. Good job, awesome.

Speaker 3:

All right. Well, everybody, have a good week and we'll see you next week.

Speaker 4:

Bye, cheers.

Speaker 1:

Cheers, cheers. I know you're wondering how.

Speaker 2:

I got that vibe. Here I go, here I go, coming. I can't ever stop. I'm a tour de force running. Get me to the top. I don't need an invitation. I'm about to start a celebration. Let me in Brought a good time for some friends. Turn it up loud past 10. Turning up the crowd when I hit them with the power.

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