3 Cocktails In

Finding Balance: Work, Love, and Trusting Your Gut!

Amy, Kitty & Stacey Season 2 Episode 1

Ever stumbled across an online dating profile that made you laugh out loud? Amy has, and she shared the tale, venturing into the world of digital dating with humor and honesty. From the challenges of outdated photos to the sometimes audacious claims people make, we compare our experiences with the polished portrayals seen on TV shows like "The Golden Bachelorette." Opening up about the idea of expanding age preferences, we question conventional dating norms and discuss the nuanced difference between wanting versus needing a partner, a topic that often triggers strong reactions.

As we launch season two of 3 Cocktails In, we ask if you ever felt a sign from the universe guiding your decisions? Our conversation shifts to the power of recognizing these signs and the role of positive thinking in shaping our lives. Through personal stories, we illustrate how these moments can provide comfort and direction, whether seen as spiritual connections or mere coincidences. With a focus on personal growth, we explore trusting intuition and tuning into our instincts. We celebrate the diverse viewpoints that enrich our lives, emphasizing the empowerment found in investing in oneself and believing in what truly resonates.

We also revisit from a previous episode what happens when the boundaries between work and personal life blur? We tackled this question head-on with a candid exploration of work-life balance, drawing from our own experiences in salaried positions. We debate whether exceeding the 40-hour workweek might actually bring unexpected benefits, and share our evolving perspectives on balancing responsibilities as life’s priorities shift. Our chat offers tips on how to approach this topic during job interviews, reminding listeners that balance is a personal journey defined by individual circumstances.

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Speaker 1:

Hello and welcome to Three Cocktails In Welcome to season two.

Speaker 3:

Episode one.

Speaker 1:

We've made it, you guys, a whole year. We talked a little bit about this on the last episode. We've made it, you guys, a whole year. We talked a little bit about this on the last episode.

Speaker 3:

We have done a little bit of recap and are just kind of reflecting on the fact that we have put out one episode every week for the past year. Today it dawned on me that this podcast has been the most consistent thing in my life over the last year. Okay, well, that's good. Yeah, so not a workout plan, not any do-good volunteer thing, nothing like that. But I have been part of a podcast for the last year. Okay, awesome, week in, week out. Yep, good, I think that's kind of cool.

Speaker 1:

It's been fun and we've been doing some planning. We've had some planning sessions talking about what will come in for our episodes this coming year, so we're rather excited about it. But, as always, we're always happy to get suggestions from people as well, so keep those coming. We've been having some fun over on the Facebook page, so if you have not liked our page over on Facebook, you can find us at Three Cocktails and pop over there as well. Yes, yes. So how's everyone's week going? Today Is this Friday for you, amy.

Speaker 3:

It is, it's Friday, although I've already got four things going on that I got to go in for work for tomorrow. Oh, you know, yeah, that's all right. Working hard Good.

Speaker 1:

Good, how are you doing stacy?

Speaker 2:

good, it's busy for us, um. So yeah, I have to do a little work on my laptop after we're done recording typical for this time of year, but that's all right oh, we talked a little bit about that was that just last episode or two episodes ago?

Speaker 1:

about if you're salaried people, is your job done when it's five o'clock?

Speaker 2:

And actually I have an update to that. I will qualify my statement that if you're a salaried person, you do the job, whether it takes 40 hours or 60 hours. And I know Amy pushed back and said, oh, but you know there's work life balance and all that kind of stuff. And I'm going to say, if you are salaried and you know your boss says your job is 40 hours, then that's different. However, if I guarantee if you work more than 40 hours and you bust it and do even better job, I guarantee it will be recognized. You know, for your 40 hours is the minimum you might kill it, for your 40 hours is the minimum you might kill it for your 40 hours. But if you, you know, if you're doing more and take on more things and you know do even better, then I guarantee you'll be recognized.

Speaker 3:

So yeah, how about that? Hopefully economically.

Speaker 2:

Yes, well, yeah, I mean. That's the point for most people.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, and I just want to qualify with that that I have always worked more than 40 hours. I was playing devil's advocate. I've got younger kids, I've heard the conversations. For some reason you know how you listen to two uh, your algorithm switches and then pretty much everything you hear is all from that perspective. So I don't, um, I don't disagree that if it is a career job that you are looking to um, embark on, you do what you need to do and hopefully you've got a good relationship with your manager, that that you get that other, you get a little flexibility. I'm doing more now with the, with the acknowledgement that down the line, we'll, we'll, we'll give you something back, you know, sort of thing.

Speaker 1:

So but and there are lots of environments out there where you won't get the acknowledgement, and then that's a situation where people have to make the decision Am I willing to stay in this or should I go? And, yeah, the work I've. I've always struggled with that phrase work, life balance, because work is part of life. So work and personal balance Um, and, as all of us have raised kids and had careers at the same time, I don't believe there's any such thing as balance and that's not a bad thing, right, such thing as balance and that's not a bad thing, right. There will be different times when family has to take priority and different times than when you know career or job things have to take priority and it's like this all the way.

Speaker 1:

And I think the more flexible people can be, and I think the more flexible people can be that it doesn't have to be so filled with people, don't have to be so filled with angst around this topic. And it scares me when I hear so many young people go into interviews and they ask the question what is the work-life balance? And I've even advised people to say you don't ask that question in an interview. I would never suggest that you ask that question in the interview. You can find out some answers on that through some different avenues, but that's not a question I would ask in an interview situation.

Speaker 3:

And there might be a better question that they're really trying to get at.

Speaker 1:

Yes, exactly.

Speaker 3:

As opposed to just this blanket statement, because a lot, a lot of, like many things, my life is different than your life. So what's a balance for me is different than what it's going to be, like you said, the various stages that you're in, and for Stacy, who's got a very seasonal job you know career this is the busy time you will be working more than 40 hours. Yeah, now, stacy also has been with his company so long and has so many vacation days have you finally cleared out 2023? Have you dipped into 2024?

Speaker 2:

No, I'm still using 2023. But I'll be. I'll quickly be into 2024. Usually I have about a year end to 2024.

Speaker 3:

Usually I have about a year. Oh good, because it's almost 2025.

Speaker 2:

But this is also one of those things.

Speaker 1:

We never take all of our vacation days.

Speaker 2:

Well, I mean there has been times when I've gotten pretty low. I mean, you know, I'm saving it up for longer vacations. It's not that I haven't had years where I've taken a bunch. Yeah, another 10 day trip, yeah, so yeah, I usually catch up at some point.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, I have always taken every single one of my vacation days, every one of them. Yeah, it just depends every one of them.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, it just depends if the company yeah, yeah, See, some companies will let you carry over and you save them for I don't know, even even medical, you know something. If you had to be off for a couple of weeks, I don't know.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, so well. Um well, that's not what we're talking about today.

Speaker 2:

Well, well, that's not what we're talking about today.

Speaker 1:

No, it's not. It's not but a good little followup to some of the things we talked about over the last couple of weeks.

Speaker 2:

Yeah.

Speaker 1:

So what's on? What's on our minds this week? What should we dig into?

Speaker 3:

Can I? Can I share? Can I have the talking stick please? I'd like to share. The floor is yours. Okay, we are in the trust tree, right the circle of trust. Yes, yes, okay. Yes, Always always with your best friends. Yeah.

Speaker 2:

Once we post this, well, look at the two fingers up With your best friends. Yeah, once we post this.

Speaker 3:

Well, look at the two fingers up If you're watching. I got two fingers up from my co-hosts here.

Speaker 2:

Well, we just want to remind you that this is going to go live in public.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, yeah. So the circle just got ruined. I trust these women and the occasional man. So, in thinking about the last year and season two, episode one, remember how I was seeing someone that I was single at the beginning of season one, episode like five, and then midway through season one, I was single. Well, season two we're starting single again. So, um, while I've come, made great strides, clearly I still am, you know, running that rat race, you guys. I got to share. Um, I got to share something that I received today. There's no pictures, don't worry, this is still rated PG. So I'm on a dating site. I got someone reached out to me and, as I always do, before I respond, I read through their profile. Can I read to you what this profile said?

Speaker 3:

Okay, First of all, this gentleman, no, this man, we're not going to use the word gentleman. This man is 12 years, my junior, and his profile says accomplished mountain climber, businessman, veteran skier, fisherman. I am seeking to start start. Smiley face. I am fun and open to possibilities. I like older because there's less drama and etc. Strong body, amazing energy. I live in minneapolis. I look amazing in calvin klein thong underwear. I like to tan pool time, travel hotels, amazing lover.

Speaker 2:

Yes.

Speaker 3:

Wow, ladies, ladies, you know, I sent it to my sister and she's like I'm sorry, but you can never deem yourself as looking amazing in Calvin Klein thong underwear, nor can you say you are an amazing lover. Those two things have to come from outside sources. So at this point she suggests I ask for references.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, I said that too. Yeah, you need references. If he just said he looks amazing in a business suit, that would be good, not a thong.

Speaker 3:

Why would he capitalized business man? Would you ever call yourself a business woman? I'm using a lot of finger bunnies for people who are just listening and not watching on YouTube, and then he sends me a message you are sexy and important. What and again, do I need you? Do I do I need some rando man telling me I am sexy and important? It reminded me of that little phrase from the Help you is kind, you is smart, you is important and sexy. You is sexy.

Speaker 1:

So I think I've asked you this before, but I don't remember the answer. Does it tell you how long someone has been on?

Speaker 3:

No, but I do some serious sleuthing and I was accused of being Mrs Sherlock Holmes once by somebody Because I'm pinching the pictures and opening it up and trying to see what's in the background. What do we have on the walls? What's the decor, you know? Is there a calendar? Can I see what year this photo was taken? Because also, men put and evidently women do too. I don't, but people put photos of themselves from 20 years ago and I've noticed you got to scroll through a lot of old pictures and like picture 11 out of 12 is the current photo, which looks nothing like photos one through 10. But this brought to mind yesterday, without me even bringing it up, I was at a work function and the women started talking about watching the golden bachelorette and how, and their comment was these are the people we should be looking towards to see how to do it right and how wonderful it could be. And I kept thinking I can't find those men. They're not on my feed.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, okay. So this is interesting, amy, because I was. I have been watching the golden bachelorette, so I watched the Golden Bachelor and I really didn't care for it. I didn't really like him as the Bachelor and I liked the women, except for the fact that they really made a point of pointing out that these are senior women you know they were talking about. Oh, I have to nap and you know all of that shit.

Speaker 3:

That's just like you don't have to do that remember that we should figure out which episode that that was on. You did have a mini rant about the golden bachelor.

Speaker 1:

Yes, yes, I'm like come on, don't do. Don't do that within this franchise, but they did and they're doing it also with the Golden Bachelorette. However, I am loving this one because I really like the guys. They are all I mean. They're mature, and I'm not referring to the fact that they're all over 60. They are. They're classy, they're respectful, they enjoy each other. So when you're watching them all interact with each other in the house, you know when they're not doing things with Joan. They're supportive and encouraging and it made me actually think the other day. I think Amy needs to bump up the age and I think that you need to look for an older man.

Speaker 3:

Okay, Two things on that One I have always said that if I shot my or set my sights on like men who are 20 years older than me, I would look hot. I think that's the first thing. But honestly, I am not looking for younger men. Matter of fact, my window, because you get to put in your window. I did five years both sides, and evidently I'm very picky and I scroll past all the ones that fit within my parameters and now I'm getting people outside my parameters. So I'm getting 45, 46, and I'm scratching my head going no, and but I'm also getting 65, 67. So are you saying I need to say like my age and 15 years old, or how much older to go?

Speaker 2:

Not that much. I think your window of five is good.

Speaker 1:

I think you could. I think you could five, definitely, definitely. I think you could go to 10 10, they're almost 70.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, so in 10 years they're 80.

Speaker 2:

Then I'm starting all over again okay, all right, let me, I'm gonna get that a little bit.

Speaker 1:

Let me get that a little bit Let me pick at that a little bit here, amy. They're 80 years old. Hang on, you don't need someone.

Speaker 3:

Oh, I don't need someone right now, I want someone. And can we discuss that? Yes, I mean I'm totally derailing our whole conversation here. I have been told by more than one man. Matter of fact, it seems to be a recurring theme and I'm trying to think about what is it for women that always gets our goat, just like this particular phrase. Men get riled up and pissed off when you say I don't need a man, I want a man. And I think the three of us and the women I know or at least I'm going to tell you how I think about that sentence I think that it's much more flattering to be wanted than needed.

Speaker 3:

I don't want any man thinking I'm looking for, um, uh, uh, um, a sugar daddy. I don't want somebody thinking I need their money, that they have to take care of me, that um, and I have heard that there are women out there that think you date a couple times and then they want you to start spending X amount of money on them. That's not me. I am fully capable of supporting myself, I have good friends, I have outlets. I want a man. I'd much rather be chosen. No, the men get super mad, super mad about this. They're like well, what am I here for If you don't need me? I'm like and, and they really take it to mean that they're not needed. They're not needed. I've had, and I've had a serious conversation with three, four different men about this and it blew my mind.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, I would think they would shy away from needy. You know thinking that. You know I would think they wouldn't be attracted to a woman that's needy. You know what I mean.

Speaker 3:

Which sounds like that's kind of what they want you to be. Well, I think we go from we equate need with needy. Yeah, yes, I think they equate need with protector head of the household. You know, knight in shining armor. I think that they don't think about us as being needy. I think it's all about how they feel, as like I'm mad, you woman, you know something like this. It's just this weird, yeah.

Speaker 1:

So it's the it's the traditional role.

Speaker 3:

Yeah.

Speaker 1:

And it's the way, it's the way boys are raised. For, you know, generally speaking, um, when, when we, when, generally speaking, when, when we, when, when Bo was born, we actually had some friends give us really interesting books on how to raise boys. In you know, in the modern world, and so I think there's, there's a lot more focus on not necessarily raising boys with that traditional position in mind. But I don't know that that will ever, that it will ever really take place. So these guys, they've grown up with that in mind, and you know, all of those words that you just use, those can mean different things to different people. You know, I expect Bill to be the protector here, 100%, but I feel 100% independent. You know, as far as I make the money I make, he makes the money he makes, it's all one. You know it's our money together. But I can take care, he knows I can take care of myself, yeah.

Speaker 3:

So interesting. I had a first date last Friday night and turns out. First of all, he said he's 5'10". If he's 5'10", I'm 6'1". Can we just clarify that? Men, quit lying about your height. Why, if he's 5'10", I'm 6'1". Can we just clarify that? Okay, men, quit lying about your height. Why.

Speaker 3:

The first date we're going to find out. Just be freaking honest. Okay, turns out he's had experience in the same industry. So we start talking about real estate and investing, and you know. So it's really interesting, and at one point I said something about well, I'm thinking about maybe keeping my place and and using it as a rental as an investment property and then looking for a house next year.

Speaker 3:

And he's like whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. Wait, what are you doing here? What is it you want? What are you doing here? What is it you want? And I'm like this is a financial situation. He goes I thought you wanted a man in your life. I thought you wanted a relationship. I'm like dude, this is our first date and you're already trying to tell me that I shouldn't be thinking about buying a house next year. You guys, sometimes and this gets us right into what we were originally going to talk about Maybe it'll get it to us. But you get that gut feeling like, oh okay, this is, this is a done deal, this just I don't want to have to explain this. I I would never presume that in a year from now, after seeing someone, that I'm living with them, so why wouldn't I continue on my whole, my whole, you know general plan that I have set forth.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, so he just assumed that you were, that you should be thinking about moving in with someone.

Speaker 3:

I mean, that's what he's thinking oh, and he was like.

Speaker 3:

I want to be with somebody. I want to be married. I'm like, well, I don't know if I need to be married. I'm like I want everything that comes with the marriage. I just don't need to be signing papers, you know. I want to be with somebody. I want to have my person. I want the full one person commitment. But I just don't think, at this age, why do we need to be married? Yeah Well, he didn't like that either, and I thought to myself you need to be dating 15 years younger than me, and he's and he actually did say you're too damn independent, aren't you?

Speaker 1:

Oh, this is done.

Speaker 3:

Yes, get rid of the word too, t-o-o. And I haven't heard from him since.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, and and damn independent. Yeah, done, yeah, done, bye, bye. Oh my gosh.

Speaker 3:

Mm, hmm, so this might have to become a regular segment on the people I've met today.

Speaker 1:

Well, there are a number of people who document their entire journey of dating.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, I got a professional career, I don't need to go into all of that. But also they do it as their job. Yeah yeah, I'm not interested in that. Yeah, I just like to share interesting sociological tidbits from an anthropological. What is that Anthropology, anthropological.

Speaker 1:

Anthropological.

Speaker 1:

There we go, that's a big word, yeah, so I mean, you really have to be, and we did the same thing when we were dating and and choosing our husbands you have to be listening to your gut on things, um, and so this is. This is one of the things that we wanted to talk about today, and I feel like this topic has been coming up in different parts of my life, and we actually ended up talking about it on one of my jewelry shows a week or so ago, which is weird, because you guys who've been on my shows before know that it's just me talking to the camera.

Speaker 3:

It's only me that you're talking to.

Speaker 2:

You're having a conversation with yourself.

Speaker 3:

It's you and Jack Handy looking into the mirror.

Speaker 2:

Yes, exactly, al Briggs from.

Speaker 3:

SNL.

Speaker 1:

I know you, I get very thoughtful comments coming from people who are, you know, spending time with me and and shopping at the same time, and there was a lively conversation in the comments about about keeping our eyes open and recognizing signs that are around us. Open and recognizing signs that are around us, and there are some. There are some people who don't. They're like, oh, get over it, that's not a sign. And then there are other people who are like there are signs around us all the time. We just and I'm on that side of the camp, I'll just tell you that right now, I am totally on that side of the camp we just have to open our eyes and be willing to see the signs that are around us.

Speaker 3:

Stace, you want to, you want to state your yeah no, now, with that I will say that is better.

Speaker 2:

You know that's more of a positive thinking, and you know you could even throw in. You know what do you call it Self? Oh, I had it. Now I can't. Manifesting, yeah, manifesting, self-fulfilling prophecy. You know you want something to happen and so you're trying to um. You know you're trying to make it happen, so you're looking for the positive signs. If that's what you want to think, you know I'm never going to believe that because the you know, I don't know. You know you took two left turns and that means something weird.

Speaker 1:

You saw you know what I mean. You see a cat in the road, and that's bad luck.

Speaker 2:

I'm not falling for that kind of stuff, but I get that you know you could see positive things happen and then that you know does that make sense.

Speaker 3:

I'm somewhere right in the middle. There are certain situations where I really truly believe in the woo-woo, woo. So with the people that I that I started into real estate with Beth and Christy and Carrie, um, they were big believers in and, and the only term I could come up with was the woo, woo, you know, woo. And in my mind I'm like woo, you know, and I never, ever, would have talked or discussed it or really looked at that kind of idea as an actual thing, until maybe four years ago, actually, with this one exception and this is the one area where I have always believed in signs, and that has to do with or at least it came out when my mom died. My mom died when I was 41. 41, she was 61. And I talked to my mom for probably 15 to 20 years. I talked to my mom every single day, always in the car driving home from work. Any alone time, I mean, for sure, during those times, but at different times of the day as well. But I started to notice things that I turned out to attribute to my mom is looking out for me Times when I was super late, super, super late, where I could really, you know, be in trouble. Damn, if the parking spot won from the door. It's open. Somebody just moved and I used to joke with the girls in the car. I'm like, oh, grammy, janet's looking out for us. You know just funny little things like that. Um, I would hear a certain song. I would be feeling really bad. I think I'd talk to you guys about it. I mean, even as as as recent as a year and a half ago, as kind of a big relationship was, was waffling I was. I would hear like eight songs in a row. That would you know. I took it to mean, stay the course. These are all you know. How did, how did these eight songs line up? And there's like this message if you just wrote down the titles or the main lyrics and stuff, yeah, um, and it's proceeded into parts of my life.

Speaker 3:

Here's a work story. So at my last location I had a townhome that was, honest hand to heart, the best price townhome in five cities in my whole area. Great home, bells and whistles in a townhome, lowest price. I could not sell that. I had a man come in, he loved it, he wanted to buy it, he needed to get his ducks in a row. A couple extra things I helped him out with that.

Speaker 3:

A week later, still not sold. Two weeks later, still not sold. Three weeks later, still not sold. Three weeks later, still not sold. Four weeks later, still not sold. And I'm showing that townhouse, I'm getting calls from realtors about it and nobody is buying that townhouse.

Speaker 3:

And this man came back with his brother and he said I see, that home is still available, my home is still available, my home is still available. And I went it is, let's go look. And we go in and his brother's like. His brother says I've been saying prayers, this is his home, this is his home. Two days later he wrote the purchase agreement for it and said I've always known this was my home. It's stuff like that where I kind of get little goosebumps and I think I don't know what's happened out there in the world. But this was his home. You guys, he's going to close next week. That's so awesome, the woo, woo stuff. I would have said I don't think so. But now I find myself maybe it's like what Stacey said you look for the signs that reaffirm your set of beliefs. Yeah, and I say I'm all for it. I'm all for it. What can it hurt? Right, the power of positive thinking.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, the belief in the unknown Right.

Speaker 3:

That's what every religion is Right Belief in the unknown.

Speaker 2:

Yep, right, and that's the piece of it, you know, if you, you know, like I said, the positive affirmations, you know that kind of thing. You know, obviously, the negative. If you think, well, I can't do this and I can't do that, well then by you know you're not going to do it and you're not going to be able to do it. You know, positively, you're going to see, you know I want to do this in the future, this is how I'm going to do it. I'm sure I can do it. You know what I mean. So I get it. And maybe the signs are things that say, yeah, well, one more thing added to this is you know one more reason why I think I can, you know, think.

Speaker 3:

I can do something.

Speaker 3:

Well, kitty, you said that you'd been thinking for a long time about making the switch, quitting your job, and although you didn't go into it, there were some can I say, maybe not so pleasant things, that kind of towards the end, that really were like yep, this is my sign, it's just, it's time, the time is now. I'd been waiting, weighing the pros and cons. Weighing the pros and cons, just weren't quite ready Hanging on, and then something happens and you could have looked at it like God damn it. You know this really sucks.

Speaker 1:

But instead you were like there's my sign and I'm, I got to bounce, I'm out and I and I and I recognize the fact that if I were 10 years younger, I would be sticking it out, I would just be dealing with it and I would be, you know, doing whatever work I could do to to make it better, but, um, I Not at this point in my life. And so, yes, I looked at those things and I just said, OK, it makes it, it makes it a little bit easier, a lot easier actually.

Speaker 3:

And also, almost to the point of thank you for making this decision so much easier for me.

Speaker 1:

Yes, yep, exactly. So I also, and I, and I, I know what the response will be immediately when I say this but, I, can't wait, okay. Well, there were things coming up in my social media constantly that were take the chance on you and invest in you, and time is now and life is short and okay. So I know what people are going to say is like, if you're engaging with that content, which I always am. They're going to feed more of it too.

Speaker 2:

Okay.

Speaker 1:

Well, so what? Because those things also were were building me up and just helping me feel strong and secure in the decision that I knew that I was going to make. I just needed to land on the right moment, even though the entire time, Bill, was like what's taking you so long?

Speaker 1:

You didn't do it today, you didn't, okay, all right, well, tomorrow's, another day or next week, um, yeah, so, but yeah it's. You know, with these big decisions in life and big transitions and you know the big transitions that you've gone through, amy, you do, you have to listen, to listen to what your gut and your heart are telling you. Um, and sometimes you're, you know, we, we make decisions with both our head and our heart and there are times that you have to let this lead.

Speaker 3:

Yes, yeah, you do. I've. I've also come to the realization over the last couple of years and and really I I wish I would have known this from the get-go, from the get-go, from the time I turned 14 and hit ninth grade, eighth grade, ninth grade, 14 and hit ninth grade, eighth grade, ninth grade, um, you have absolutely no control over anybody around you or what or what their response is going to be. So any amount of time and energy you spend on thinking about somebody else's response is wasted energy. Yeah, it's a waste of time. You're dwelling in crap you cannot control. So what can you control? You can control your own thoughts. You can control the people you're around. You can control your algorithm. So it constantly feeds you words of encouragement.

Speaker 3:

And there is not enough time, money, years are worth dwelling in the negativity. You just can't. You've got to. You know, and I can be sarcastic and I can at times be cynical about things, but when it comes to the important stuff, I'm going to default to Grandma Janet, my mom looking over me, my dad making way for me, because the universe, karma, wants the best for me, and I'm going to put my energy into making that crap happen. I'm not going to focus on why this dude thinks he looks good in a Calvin Klein thong. He is not for me, thank you. No, next, you know sort of thing, and I don't know why that takes years and years, and years to finally say, quite frankly, I don't give a shit what you think. Yeah, this is what's right for me.

Speaker 2:

Don't give a shit what you think. Yeah, this is what's right for me. We hold onto that way too long, yep.

Speaker 3:

Yep For sure. Listening to our gut, I mean that that stuff gets tamped down pretty dang quick and nobody wants to talk even more about the woo, woo, about universal signs. Kitty, what was the story you were telling about? Somebody watched or with the, tell us that that was interesting.

Speaker 1:

So I, I, I met a couple of women, um, who I well, I should have done a little bit more research on it before talking about it, but in general, they use a pendulum for decision-making and it's based on an ancient belief and so they've written a book on it to understand where it comes from and the origins of it and basically how it works. And so you have a pendulum and you can I don't know if you can use anything that's weighted, that you dangle, basically, anything that's weighted, that that you dangle basically, and it, um, basically emits your, uh, your vibe, for lack of a better word Um, so for me, or pot your energy for positive or for negative. And you know, there are people in the corporate world who tap into some of these things at times for decision making. It might be something that they keep to themselves. I don't know, it's probably you know, because it would be criticized for sure.

Speaker 1:

But I went to lunch with actually, I think I went to lunch with one of the women and then I went to lunch with the two of them together and I think it was when I was just one on one with one of them. She had a pendulum with her and she pulled it out, and so she showed me how you know how she's holding it and you know she would just let it sit there to become one with her, and then she would just let it sit there to become one with her, and then she would make statements, and then the pendulum would move. And if the answer was no, the pendulum would just go back and forth like this, and if the answer was yes, it would go in a circle, and you know, and and I'm watching her and she's not moving her hand um, and then she handed it to me and and I did it and it was pretty fascinating. So I'm fascinated enough that I would like to know more about it. Yeah, I know that.

Speaker 3:

Look, stacy oh, stop calling for that one isn't that interesting yeah and and also this is one of the cool things that I think that I hope has shown through, as we think about the last year of all of our various topics, that the three of us come from three different viewpoints. Our intersectionality between Stacey and I, having really grown up in very similar same-town environments Kitty outstate we met at college. You know all of these different points of where we're at in our lives. We've got different opinions on all this stuff and it's so interesting that you know we're really really really good friends and we got polar opposite views on yeah, you know, honestly, the pendulum thing, she believes it.

Speaker 2:

The whole, the whole key is she believes it. You know what I mean. So it's gonna work for her. You know what I mean. Um, it's, I'm not gonna buy it, you know it's. You know it's just like that. All right, it's not gonna work for me because I don't believe that's something. You know it's. You know it's just like that. It's not going to work for me because I don't believe that's something. You know what I mean. But again, that's the positive thinking versus the negative thinking. If you believe you can, you know that that's going to work for you and that's that's what happens. You, um, you know, find the positive in that certain thing.

Speaker 1:

I kind of want to put it to the test, Stacey.

Speaker 3:

So have Stacey put it to the test.

Speaker 1:

Yep, I think that next time we do a girls next, you can't swing the pendulum around, okay.

Speaker 2:

I prefer you not there Braveheart or gladiator or whatever it is you're doing Next time we have a girls weekend.

Speaker 1:

I think we should invite them, Um, because they're fabulous women. They'd be so fun on a girl's night out, and we should. We should all spend a little bit of time with a pendulum.

Speaker 3:

I think we should also invite our friend and former yoga teacher, Hannah Rose Alexander. She would dig it big time. She would. Yeah, this and the three of us. Kitty, you're still following her, aren't you? Yep.

Speaker 2:

Yep.

Speaker 3:

So way back on vacation pre COVID times, back in COVID times, right before COVID, went to my favorite little island retreat, did yoga for the entire time. I was there with this darling younger woman. She's probably in her early 30s, mid 30. I don't think she's hit 35 yet, but very intuitive, very internal, she would say my chakras are blocked. I did not know what she meant, I just knew I could not do that pose. You know, um, I I think her mom was there at one point and her mom's an energy healer and all of this was just so new to me, didn't, didn't understand any of it, but she was predominantly into yoga.

Speaker 3:

Then did some other stuff, came back, kept the yoga thing going. We went to a girls weekend. We scheduled a private yoga session online with hannah, who was down in mexico, and there were six of us there, maybe all in a circle, doing some yoga, and so we've all continued to follow her. Well, lo and behold. Is that how that goes? Lo and behold, lo and behold. Yes, she has now fully committed to her inner goddess classes and sessions on cosmic orgasms and embracing the universal mother that lies within all of us. And the three of us are still following her because I'm still hoping for glimmers of insightfulness. But sometimes she posts stuff and the three of us go what, what, what was she saying? I don't understand it. I'm so lost.

Speaker 3:

I'm so lost, but I think it's just really cool that we are still following and reading. We are now open to all sorts of stuff in hopes of making our lives better.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, learning something new, why not?

Speaker 3:

Why not? Why not Cosmic orgasms for everyone? It sounds like a drink we should be ordering at the bar, but I'm pretty sure that's what that was. I don don't really know, couldn't tell you the signs of it, but if anybody's interested in following hannah, drop a comment and I'll send you a link, because she is actually just she's. She's great. I I really enjoy them. I still don't understand.

Speaker 2:

I don't understand any of it.

Speaker 1:

I think that Cosmo that we had at Mason Margo.

Speaker 3:

The one where we lit our breath on fire. It was so strong.

Speaker 1:

I think that was a cosmic aureus.

Speaker 3:

I think that's that was our mother, mother earth, telling us you know, go forth and be your own firecracker or something I I don't quite know. Yeah, I don, I don't know.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, oh my gosh.

Speaker 3:

All right, I think that I think, listening to our guts exploring, exploring different, being open to good energy, doing the things that propel you forward, that is a great place to start for season two.

Speaker 1:

Yes, Season two. I agree, I agree. Fun, fun, I agree, I agree. Fun, fun, fun conversation tonight. You guys, yes, we just never know where these combos are going to go. They are truly addicting conversations, aren't they?

Speaker 2:

Addicting yeah, absolutely, absolutely.

Speaker 1:

All right. Well, who knows what's on tap for next week? Actually, we know, we do know, we do know.

Speaker 3:

Yep, I got some more questions to add to that one because somebody else that's coming on has an affliction for affliction Addiction Okay. Pension for tarot cards.

Speaker 1:

Two different things. That's right. I remember things. That's right. I remember that. Okay, I'll stop. We'll talk about it next week. Alright, see you guys have a good week. Cheers, bye.

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