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Stacey Takes Us From Cornfields to Clean Fuel: A Journey Through America's Bioethanol Horizon

February 15, 2024 Amy, Kitty & Stacey Season 1 Episode 18
Stacey Takes Us From Cornfields to Clean Fuel: A Journey Through America's Bioethanol Horizon
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Stacey Takes Us From Cornfields to Clean Fuel: A Journey Through America's Bioethanol Horizon
Feb 15, 2024 Season 1 Episode 18
Amy, Kitty & Stacey

When was the last time you thought about where the fuel for your car comes from, or the story behind every kernel of corn on your dinner plate? Allow our friend Stacey who works at Poet Biorefining in Jewel, Iowa to enlighten you, as she spills the secrets of turning corn into clean-burning ethanol and other valuable products. Weaving personal tales from our girls' weekend with professional insights, this episode paints a vivid image of the tight-knit agricultural community and the renewable energy industry that sustains it. It's a heartwarming blend of laughter, land, and the kind of local lore that turns an industry tour into a hometown story.

Fire up your engines and clear the air, because we're hitting the road with ethanol, a biofuel that's powering more than just our cars—it's energizing small-town economies across America. Debunking myths with the sharpness of a farmer's scythe, we talk about ethanol blends, engine health, and the initiatives championing this corn-crafted fuel. As Stacey steers us through her 30-year journey from bookkeeping to buying bushels of corn for biofuel, we're reminded that the merriment of a weekend getaway can seamlessly merge with the mission to make our planet greener. Join us for a ride through the countryside that promises more than scenic views—it offers a glimpse into the future of sustainable fuel.

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When was the last time you thought about where the fuel for your car comes from, or the story behind every kernel of corn on your dinner plate? Allow our friend Stacey who works at Poet Biorefining in Jewel, Iowa to enlighten you, as she spills the secrets of turning corn into clean-burning ethanol and other valuable products. Weaving personal tales from our girls' weekend with professional insights, this episode paints a vivid image of the tight-knit agricultural community and the renewable energy industry that sustains it. It's a heartwarming blend of laughter, land, and the kind of local lore that turns an industry tour into a hometown story.

Fire up your engines and clear the air, because we're hitting the road with ethanol, a biofuel that's powering more than just our cars—it's energizing small-town economies across America. Debunking myths with the sharpness of a farmer's scythe, we talk about ethanol blends, engine health, and the initiatives championing this corn-crafted fuel. As Stacey steers us through her 30-year journey from bookkeeping to buying bushels of corn for biofuel, we're reminded that the merriment of a weekend getaway can seamlessly merge with the mission to make our planet greener. Join us for a ride through the countryside that promises more than scenic views—it offers a glimpse into the future of sustainable fuel.

Make sure to subscribe to our channel, comment, like, and share!

Amy, Kitty & Stacey

P.S. Isn't our intro music great?! Yah, we think so too. Thank you, Ivy States for "I Got That Wow".

Support the Show.

Speaker 1:

Hello ladies.

Speaker 2:

Hello. Hi how are you all?

Speaker 1:

It seems like such a long time since we've been together.

Speaker 3:

It's been a couple hours.

Speaker 1:

Yes, literally a couple hours. A couple hours we are coming off of our I was going to say our annual girls weekend. This wasn't our annual girl's weekend. It was just a girls weekend. Stacy came up and we got the whole Broad Squad together for a little bit. This weekend we did?

Speaker 4:

Yes, did you? Did listeners, did you check in out our Facebook and Instagram stories? And because we shared the pictures of the whole group and Kitty had this brilliant idea. Because we talked about before here how Kitty's so much shorter than the rest of us, she thought it was going to be a super good idea to like kneel on the stool. It is the goofiest looking picture ever. I don't. This will tell you that. Yes, the crew was three cocktails in, maybe four. That picture, yeah. Maybe four, maybe four cocktails in yeah, probably four, yeah.

Speaker 3:

Cropped it, cropped, it would look very nice.

Speaker 4:

But yeah, kitty, but then it would also look panorama if we cropped it.

Speaker 2:

That will.

Speaker 1:

Yeah. I would yeah, it seemed like a good idea at the time.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, it was fun and we, yeah, we'll never forget that and keep reminding you. Yes, thank you.

Speaker 4:

And as much crap as we give you. There were four other people in that that never said boo about how it could be a bad idea. No.

Speaker 1:

Including the poor dude that we asked to take our picture.

Speaker 2:

So whatever, oh yeah.

Speaker 1:

Anyway, it was fun. We're all tired. Stacy just drove three hours home and here we are jumping on to another episode of three cocktails in. So we're happy to be here on the small screen together and thank you all for tuning in. This is going to be our second installation in this three series of three and our third.

Speaker 4:

Our third Mr.

Speaker 1:

This is our third. Yes, we did, that's right. You're right. See, I'm not well, that's right. Okay, so we Amy was on the hot seat. First we learned a little bit more about her career as a realtor, learned a little bit about the real estate market, and then last week that's right we talked a little bit about marketing and branding, and we are very excited to focus on Stacy. Amy and I and the rest of the broad squad and, of course, everyone in your family, stacy, and your friend group. Everyone knows how amazing, how amazing you are. We're going to share with the world a little bit about what you do professionally Great. And again, what we love about this group is that we all have very different areas of expertise. So let's start off by why don't you just give us an overview of what you do?

Speaker 3:

Sure, so I work for Poet Grain in Wichita but I work at Poet Biorefining in Jewel, and Poet Biorefining makes bioethanol and some other products from corn and that is, you know, corn, that's field corn or dent corn is what the feedstock is for it. And so, like I said, we make bioethanol, we make animal feed and we make corn oil from corn that local farmers grow. So what I do specifically, you know I crunch spreadsheets and form some strategy and manage a small team. You know we weigh in corn, weigh out feed, do a lot of accounting paperwork for that. But my most important job, I think, is that I, you know, form relationships with local farmers so we can buy their corn and have a constant supply, because we need it, you know, every day, all year long.

Speaker 1:

So how do you form the relationships with the farmers Like? What does that look like?

Speaker 3:

You know they're again very local. So you know we have a 30 to 40 mile radius typically. So they're, you know we're part of the community. We get out and have meetings and meet people and talk to them on the phone all the time. See them face to face.

Speaker 4:

You get up at the crack of dawn and go to the local diner and sit down and have a cup of coffee with the local cases.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, we have a joke about that, because that's what they do. They walk into cases, have their coffee and stand in the corner, and then one, you know, on days I walk in, I take all sorts of you know Gaff and oh, geez, the corn prices and high enough, blah, blah, blah, blah.

Speaker 4:

So yeah, you buy them their donuts.

Speaker 3:

That's how that worked once in a while, yeah there you go.

Speaker 3:

Yep, there you go. Yes, so yeah, that's how it works. Like I said, we do a ton of different things that those, like I said, those things are the most important. Ethanol itself, and we call it bioethanol because it's plant-based. What goes into it is corn, a lot of you know, enzymes, yeast and everything gets added to it. The starch and the sugar from the corn is what ferments and that's the part that makes ethanol there.

Speaker 3:

It's kind of, you know I can't explain all the process, but down the down the road in the process then it's separated out, or the ethanol is separated from what they call the solids, so the solids part is then spun more and where the oil, the corn oil, is taken out and then what's left is kind of this goopy, you know, stuff that's further dried into, like what would be similar to cornmeal, kind of a gritty, you know kind of product that's dry and animals eat that. So cows, pigs, poultry, you know it's like a animal, animal feed or mixed with animal food. Corn oil also, can you know, is used in that way too, for animals, also goes in the biodiesel process as well. So, like, from all that corn that we purchase, everything gets used. There's no waste to what we do, right.

Speaker 1:

Okay, so do all the farmers then just bring their corn to you.

Speaker 3:

We set a price and they sell it when you know, when they want or where they want. You know, we have a lot of competition, so we yeah, not a farmer here, what you aren't.

Speaker 4:

I have mentioned I've killed a few plants this winter, right. So when you say you have a lot of competition, yes, you have competition to buy corn.

Speaker 3:

Yes, so great, great question because, yes, we have a lot of also bioethanol plants near us and feed mills which also buy corn to make feed as well. So yes, we have competition. That can be three miles away or, you know, within 30 miles, 50 miles, we're all trying to buy the same kernel of corn, bushel of corn right so we try to stand out in service right.

Speaker 3:

So it's a customer service based, you know, process. We're not always the highest price, we try not to be the lowest price, we're trying to buy enough. You know. So we have this consistent supply. It's supply and demand. You know, when we have a big supply, corn prices move lower. When we have a shorter supply or we have a weather event you know we have a big snowstorm, god, which we had so that slows things up, you know. So our price changes all the time based on what the supply is, how fast it's moving to us, what we need, what our storage is at the time, how much space we have.

Speaker 4:

So with that, do you find your business is seasonal, Is it? I mean, you can't have bioethanol production be seasonal, can you? It's 24 seven.

Speaker 3:

So the plant price, 24, seven, okay, but we have. So, as you drive into our plant, we have, you know, big storage bins. That holds it, but that's even at that. That's only a little more than a month of our, you know, the the storage capacity is only a month's worth of the corn we need. So farmers also have storage on farm and then and then local elevators that's their, you know business as well as to take corn, beans, whatever, into their elevator, store it until an end user needs it. So that's why we, you know we're buying corn all the time.

Speaker 3:

basically, but, harvest is the busiest. We take them or fill up. That's the point. And then the rest of the year we have to keep buying as well to feed the plant, right? Yeah, yeah, so like how, how you know, it seems to most people like it's fairly new, isn't really the? The Model T was built a bunch of years ago and it actually ran on ethanol.

Speaker 3:

The problem was prohibition showed up and they outlawed any kind of alcohol. It's basically corn alcohol. So they outlawed it with prohibition. So then it took a while to come back into play. That happened in the 70s when big states and big cities decided we have a smog problem now and want to try to clean up that issue. Right, and so if you blend ethanol which is a fuel, not an additive, but a fuel that's cleaner burning in with gas, then it also makes the whole process cleaner. So like you can go on YouTube and see that demonstration they burn ethanol and it's nice blue flame. Nothing come from it, you can't smell it. The gas you burn it and it's this kind of bigger yellow for flame with smoke billowing up from it, and that's what makes the problem. So ethanol is a fix to that.

Speaker 3:

There's other pieces to it, so there's other reasons why we use ethanol or we wanna produce ethanol. The biggest is that we have this huge corn supply and some of it is used for feed, right. So we grow. Us farmers grow 15 billion bushels. Five of it's used for feed. Little more than five of it's used for bio ethanol. A couple billion of it is exported to other countries, mostly Mexico, canada, asian countries, and a little more than a billion is used for human food, like corn flakes, corn chips, corn tortillas, that kind of thing. So there's, but even with that, there's still this two billion bushel surplus of corn at the moment this year.

Speaker 3:

So the farmers have always forever looked for different ways to use their product. They don't wanna grow less, they wanna grow more. With over time, with technology and seed technology, they keep growing more bushels per acre. So they want a way to use it. So that's a reason this started as well.

Speaker 3:

So it came back into play in the 70s that they're looking for ways to clean up the smog issue. So the government said, okay, well, you can put 10% blend, 10% ethanol into the gas that you sell, right? Well, the oil and gas industry didn't wanna give up any market share. They wanna sell their product. They don't wanna sell our product right. So it didn't really take off again until you know it's sometime in the late 90s, early 2000s, when the government then said, well, you will blend 10% ethanol into the gas supply. So that's when it really took off and ethanol plants were built all over the Midwest, because you know, the Midwest grows all the corn. So the biggest states that grow the most corn I was number one Illinois and Nebraska. Minnesota, where you guys are from, is number four, and then Illinois, ohio, missouri, kansas, everywhere else around in the Midwest, also Texas, california, so again, there's big supply. So, but they built ethanol plants right where the supply is. So farmers can, you know, derive just a few miles to sell their crop.

Speaker 4:

If you're trying to reduce fog and smog, you don't want your trucks driving farther Right.

Speaker 3:

That's a good point. That is Right. So back to the gas and oil industry, where we, besides the US production of oil and gas, we buy a ton of it from countries like Russia and Iran and Iraq and Saudi Arabia. You know those kind of things. So the ethanol industry also is trying to help decrease the dependency on foreign oil, right. So that's another reason why we do want to use it. I mentioned clean burning. We also, you know, help with the rural economy. They're all you know. Most plants are put in a rural setting.

Speaker 3:

So, helps with you know it's yeah. So where I live there's a thousand people or less that live in Jewel, but yet we have a you know industry just a mile away with employees that you know again helps the tax base of the city and county and all the other things construction and you know, even down to catering and grocery stores that help support the community Sure.

Speaker 4:

Can I ask a perhaps a silly question? Not silly? Why are some of us, or why have we been told that we shouldn't put ethanol in our cars, gas with ethanol in our cars?

Speaker 3:

Sure. Well, we go back to that thing where the oil and gas industry, you know, at the time wasn't too thrilled with giving up market share. So they've put a lot of you know false information out. Honestly, the biggest one for a while was food versus fuel. You know, the thought was why would we use food corn to produce fuel when we have plenty of it? But again, I told you, we keep growing more and more and still have a big surplus. So there's plenty. If they want to use more for food, corn chips and whatever they, there's certainly the supply for that as well.

Speaker 3:

The thought that it hurts your engines is possible. It depends on what you drive, obviously. So in the US, 2001 makes and models of cars and newer can easily run 10% ethanol. Okay, the things that maybe shouldn't, they say well, definitely your, you know older cars, your you know those classic, classic cars should not just because of what their, their engine was, you know, when it was built many years ago. Small engines, probably not things like lawnmowers, snowmobiles, that kind of thing. They say don't put it in that Anything else. 2001, anywhere, should be able to run ethanol. There's a specific blend called E85, so it's 85% ethanol. That's only for flexible fuel vehicles. So those are specific kind of vehicles. If you buy a flexible vehicle, you know and you know you can use E85. You can also use E10 or E15, which is 10% or 15% ethanol, but they'll, they know, they can just use. They can use E85 if they want.

Speaker 1:

Sorry it's. I think this is related, so I'll interject the question. Why? Why does it seem like there are different options at the pump here in Minnesota than, say, I am going to Sioux Falls for a weekend and I go to get gas and I stand there and from the pump and there are things that I don't recognize. Yeah, a whole bunch A whole bunch and then I don't know which one to know what to do right.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, so so there are a lot of choice. That's a marketing piece to it too is that you can choose what you want, right, and ethanol cheapens the price. You know. The more ethanol they put in, that makes the price of a gallon of gas cheaper. So your E10 is a certain price. E15 is a little cheaper than that. Sometimes you can find different places. You might find E30, e85, all of those are, you know, step down, cheaper.

Speaker 3:

Your premium gets more expensive. Can be a couple of reasons. They either put an additive in the premium to make your engine run better, you know. So some of some of premium gas won't have ethanol in it, so then it's more expensive. Anyway, the research I did says you should look at your manual. It'll say, I know it'll say possibly what your car requires for fuel or what they recommend. So they may recommend premium, may not really need it, may or may not. And there are some that say it's required to have premium gas. There are some that are required to not have premium gas so they're not built to use a higher octane of gas, and that's basically what it's saying. So your regular it's about octane and that's a number again, which is just makes it more confusing to me. So E10 has an octane of 87.

Speaker 3:

E15, also sometimes called unleaded 88, has 88 octane, and then there's a mid-grade that's like 90 and a premium that's 92 or three or something, something like that, if that makes sense, 90, 91, 92, 93, for sure, like I said, I'm not an expert on that. But the premium, and especially in Minnesota, since you, you know, one of the bigger states, your Senator Amy Klobuchar, is leading the charge and trying to get E15, right in the state of Minnesota, pushing for all the states. So Midwestern states like Iowa, minnesota, have, you know, put a. What do I want to say? They've, at the state level, said we will blend E15. It's a lot of the other states that haven't moved into that, that thinking yet. So so you know, in Minnesota your premium may very well have ethanol in it. Usually, if it doesn't, it'll say no ethanol, like a sticker on the pump. Yeah, yeah. So it depends on your, on your car and what you, you know, your reason for maybe wanting cheaper or more expensive.

Speaker 4:

Huh, yeah, fuel. So I have to either Google it or I have to get my manual out and read that.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, yeah, pretty much, I know. Yeah, like I said in general they say most, most cars today on the road, unless it's a old and classic car 2001 and newer can can use it. You know 95% of the gas sold in the US has at least a blend of 10%. So most most likely you're, you're getting there Okay.

Speaker 1:

Cool Stacy. How did you get into poet and specifically this line of work? The slow way you know, I yes, very slow way.

Speaker 3:

You know my, I didn't finish college. I went five semesters towards a finance degree. We moved a bunch. I had kids, you know. When I was ready to, you know, get it, get a real job, Found one within the ag industry. So I did, you know, started billing and doing bookkeeping basically for country elevator that, you know, did fuel and fertilizer, chemical sales type thing. Moved to a elevator that and was buying and buying corn, beans, oats, Did that for a bit. Just kind of kept moving my way towards something different, you know what I mean. Within that same company I got an accounting position. Did that for a while, moved to a system merchandiser position for a while and then poet just right, you know, we moved again in between there and then poet was building this plant just five miles from where I lived, so applied for position there, got a merchandising position to buy corn. And that's how it is and that's been 18 years ago. I'm just starting my 18th year, Wow. So yeah, just a lot of different things to get to this place.

Speaker 4:

Yeah.

Speaker 1:

It's really interesting and it's absolutely something that I know absolutely nothing about. So you know, we're always peppering you with questions and, yep, whenever we go on girls weekend, there's always Stacy with her laptop and she's crunching spreadsheets Yep, yep, french and spreadsheets. And we've also listened to watch you listen to the farm report.

Speaker 3:

Oh, yes, that's, exciting, whoo Yep.

Speaker 4:

Yeah, we ever need lifelines and you need to know something about the farm report. Yeah, I can send Stacy a message, not us.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, see what we can see what we can figure out if I don't, if I don't haven't already heard it, I can research it, yeah Well what do you what's, what does the future look like for bio ethanol or kind of one of the things that you guys are keeping your eyes on?

Speaker 3:

Yeah, so, like I mentioned, the Midwestern states are trying to get E15. Adoption throughout the US, that's the first big hurdle. You know, knowing things like NASCAR, for instance, uses E15 already, indycar uses E85. So those are high performing vehicles. Can, you know, use bioethanol? Then I would say, another big thing that's coming, that's gonna take a while, honestly, is the sustainable aviation fuel. So it is blending ethanol into fuel for jets. So we use a lot of gas for, you know, jet fuel. That's the next thing. However, it's not just a matter of taking the product that we produce and blending it with jet fuel. It's a little different. There's a new plant that just opened, I guess first one in Georgia. So that'll be a thing that comes. But, like I said, just like the actual bioethanol industry was a little slow at first to get going. There's a lot of hoops to jump through to get to that point, but that would be the next big thing.

Speaker 1:

So let's see. So do you feel like? Is it decades away? Not?

Speaker 3:

decades.

Speaker 3:

I think, it'll be faster than that. There's a lot of work that needs to be done with the carbon intensity discussion, you know. So every company is trying to reduce their carbon intensity score, so especially if you're manufacturing anything right. So even Pepsi, say, for instance, are working towards that goal, as is Poet. But there's some things that have to happen, for even farming practices have to change a little bit, or bigger adoption of better farming practices. Poet needs to do some things to get that lower carbon score. Poet itself, in the last less than 20 years probably 15, has reduced its energy use by 18%, has reduced its water use by 20%. So it's all that kind of thing that still will happen to get to that point where you can be call yourself a farmer, you know, call yourself a low carbon company, so you can move on to the aviation you will debate. So that's something cool.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, it's very interesting and I'm guessing that people may have more questions about this. You know, it is definitely a topic. It's a conversation that you don't have on a regular basis. I don't know anyone else who works in this industry whatsoever. You know this question about what am I seeing at the gas tank? I've never asked that to anybody, I mean I've maybe asked.

Speaker 3:

Bill, and I think that's a challenge in itself, which I'm guilty of too, because you pull up to a gas pump and there's five choices. You know what do you do. So then it ends up being more like what do you find important? You know a lot of people would say, well, they're gonna buy the cheapest gas, some people don't. So then it takes a different reason to figure out what. What else can I use, or should I use, or yeah, so I get it, it's yeah.

Speaker 4:

Yeah, well, I just didn't know anybody who could explain it, right? Yeah, yeah, because Because to me it's that octane number and that's the price, but I don't know what octane is, I don't know what that matters. And then you hear a rumor about you know. Somebody says, well, you shouldn't.

Speaker 3:

Blah, blah, blah Should never, be like oh, you know, yeah, so now we know yeah, right, and that's why I think especially where, where you live and where I live, it's, it's probably in it and you don't even know, it would be my guess, unless you're really specifically seeking out the premium with no FNL in it. Yeah, yeah, very cool. Right, I know.

Speaker 1:

Thank you, stacy. Thank you for educating us. You are welcome. Yeah, if anyone has questions on this, please drop them in our Drop them in comments, and I'm sure that the topic will come up again in future conversations as well. So maybe there are probably other little offshoots of conversation that we can have on the toy.

Speaker 4:

Yeah.

Speaker 1:

Yeah.

Speaker 4:

Yeah, like I got a, I got to know a little bit more about Stacy and her farmer customers. Yeah.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, I'm not sure how many listen to the podcast. I would guess there's maybe a couple, I don't know there's, there's several that have mentioned it. I can't imagine they listen, but you never know. However, I will shout out to the farm hers. So I think that's a group that's very, you know, not Recognized often and those are the mothers and the wives and the daughters of you know, farmers. They Equally work on the farm, a lot of them. I have about four or five Female customers that really do call and mark their corn. That's Marcy. I think Marcy listens, you know there's. There's those women that do that piece. There's women that really are running the combine, running the tractors, you know, running the catch cart at harvest, doing all those kind of things. There's the ones that make, you know, make food, take to their big group in the field, because farmers don't want to take break, even to eat supper. So there's those which that's the piece I would not do try to cook meals, hot meals, for 20 every every day.

Speaker 3:

No, there's the, the ones that do the books. They do all the books for the farming business and it is a business. It definitely is. They're pretty business savvy and Very tech savvy. You you wouldn't think that like if you think farmer in your head, you know Most, I think. Picture this older guy in overalls and has a pitchfork, right, yeah, no, there they're. You know, sometimes they probably look like that, I will admit, but now they're. They're doing a lot of other things. You know, they sit on boards Kind of thing. They go to Washington and Lobby and then they come home and like their lifestyle that's what they call it a lifestyle of. You know it's a family business. There's the kids, daughters even that part-time do all the chores and help farm Seasonally when they're not in school.

Speaker 3:

You, know, so all that kind of thing.

Speaker 4:

So yeah, I would guess it's far more technical and scientific and Complex. Yeah, then you would think, then we ever think about, as we drive from one city to the other, yeah, and just past fields on the side, you know, yeah, so for instance, you should see the inside of a half a million dollar and plus Combine, it's covered.

Speaker 3:

It has computer screens all over the front. You know tractors drive themselves. I mean I don't think they're to the place where they. Nobody's sitting there, well, while it's doing that. But yeah, the tractors drive themselves. They stop at the end and, you know, get it turned around and just keep on going back and forth in fields. So it's a lot of a lot of tech. You know technology driven a lot of more business. You know practices. Then you would think, because it's a lot of money, it's not necessarily profit. I mean we pay a lot for corn and they just turn right around to pay a lot for all their fertilizer and chemicals and seed, and you know fuel and equipment.

Speaker 4:

So yeah, well, it kind of makes sense that poet is, is, and and other companies are Taking that and taking it a step further and doing something really smart with it. So, yep, very cool Yep.

Speaker 3:

So that's all I know. Yeah, I'm tapped out, that's it.

Speaker 1:

Question. All right, I like it. That's great, that's great. Thank you, stacy. Yes, thank you. Anybody have a shot?

Speaker 4:

Hmm, yeah, don't get on a stool. Please think about the end result of the photos you're gonna take this week. You know, picture it.

Speaker 3:

Oh boy, like I said, you never know what we might do On a night out, that's true, that's true, but All in all, it was really pretty tame.

Speaker 1:

It was just wonderful to be able to spend time together. Yeah, it always is. Yes, and you know, we, we make it a priority. That's something that Again one one of the reasons why we wanted to do the podcast, to talk about the importance of this friend group. And, you know, while it's the three of us that get together to do the podcast, we have the broad squad, which is the original group and it's, you know, what I love about it is that, even though months can go by that we all don't get together, then when we do, it's just like, yeah, no time has passed at all yeah and that is yeah, every time, and it's so.

Speaker 1:

It's true friendship, and we're all Just so fortunate to have this friend group. So, yeah, listeners, find your people. Find your people because they are out there and they're so incredibly important. What are you laughing at, my heart?

Speaker 4:

You got to get the point at the bottom. I mean this, I know.

Speaker 3:

Okay, that's mine. I need to practice my heart. I'm okay. I evidently use it all the time, yeah never I.

Speaker 1:

Actually do? I actually do this a lot. Oh well, you practice.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, I'll practice that this week.

Speaker 4:

Oh, you guys, we've hit the wall, we're getting Okay, so all right on back, come on back next week for more.

Speaker 1:

I was gonna say riveting, addicting Conversation, riveting addicting conversations.

Speaker 4:

There we go.

Speaker 1:

I have no idea what we're talking about. Next week, no, but it'll be great.

Speaker 3:

We'll give it yeah give it suggestions.

Speaker 1:

Yep, yep, we're always, always looking for suggestions. All right until next week, everybody, have a Wonderful week and we will see you all.

Speaker 3:

Cheers, cheers, cheers cheers.

Speaker 2:

All right, I Got that, we got that. Turn it up. I know you're wondering here I go. Here I go, coming. I can't ever stop. I'm a tour the force running. Give me to the top. I don't need an invitation. I'm about to start a celebration. Let me in brought a good time for some friends. Turn it up loud.

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